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GeekBox Review: A Hacker’s Dream?

Postby GeekBox » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:48 am

Source: http://hometheatrelife.com/geekbox-review/

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The GeekBox is GeekBuying’s first foray into the mini PC market. Powered by the octacore Rockchip RK3368 SoC, it’s capable of running Android and Linux out of the box. However, it’s more than your standard TV box, with a variety of additional interfaces and purchasable extras that allow you to use the GeekBox as a development platform. Open the case, remove the board and plug it into the $30 GeekBox landing strip.

I want to say thanks to GeekBuying for providing me a GeekBox to review.

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GeekBox Technical Specifications

General
Processor: Rockchip RK3368
CPU: Octacore Cortex A53 processor @ 1.5 GHz
GPU: PowerVR G6110
Operating System: Android Lollipop 5.1.1
RAM: 2GB DDR3
Storage: 16GB eMMC 5.0
Other Features: IR Sensor, Power button
Power: DC 5V/2A

Interfaces
Video Output:HDMI 2.0
Audio Output: HDMI 2.0
Other Interfaces: 2 x USB 2.0, 1x micro USB, MXM3 Connector (Internal)

Connectivity
WiFi: 802.11ac 2 x 2 MIMO Dual-Band Wi-Fi (2.4GHz/5.0GHz)
Ethernet: 1000Mbps
Bluetooth: 4.1

Physical
Dimensions: 90 x 69 x 21 mm
Weight: 500g

What’s in the Box?

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GeekBuying have provided the typical inclusions that are included with most Android TV boxes:

1x GeekBox unit
1x IR Remote
1x USB power cable
1x USB Power Adapter
1x HDMI cable
1x Instruction Manual

For those of you who are wanting to take the GeekBox beyond a TV box, there’s a whole heap of additional accessories that can be purchased separately including a RTC battery, fan and the $30 landing strip.

GeekBox Review: Design

The box that the Geekbox is packaged in was pretty typically size for most Android boxes. So I was pretty surprised just how tiny the GeekBox is when I unboxed it. At just 90x69x21mm, it’s small enough to fit into the palm of your hand and far smaller than any other RK3368 device I’ve tested to date.

The Geekbox looks incredible and is probably the most distinct box I’ve seen since the Zidoo X1. It’s definitely military inspired (although marketing material claims its inspired by SUVs), with faceted surfaces, triangle vents and small details that really make it look unique. The whole case is made of a black translucent plastic that’s glossy but thankfully, the details help mask any fingerprints.

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All the ports are located on the rear of the GeekBox. From left to right, you have a wifi antenna, DC In, micro USB OTG, HDMI In, micro SD card slot, Ethernet, 2 fullsize USB 2.0 ports and a second Wifi antenna.

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The right side houses dedicated reset and update buttons. However, these are just plastic tabs that press the buttons directly on the board. A small power button is also located on the top of the unit.

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Part of the draw of the GeekBox is it’s ability to be used as a development platform by interfacing directly with the motherboard.

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By removing the two wifi antennas, you can access the innards, including the MXM-III interface and expansion ports for additional components offered by GeekBuying such as a cooling fan.

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The included remote is almost identical to the one included on the Ugoos UT3S. There’s the basic Android functionality and navigation controls. Interestingly, there’s a button with the Android app switcher icon but pressing it triggered a mouse mode which was odd.

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GeekBox Review: Using It

The GeekBox powers up via the power button on the top of the unit. With a keyboard and mouse connected, a cold boot into Android takes around 24 seconds.I found that my keyboard and mouse wasn’t detected unless it was plugged in before boot, so make sure you keep it plugged in. I’ve reached out to GeekBuying to see if it’s a bug or just an incompatibility. Waking from standby is instant.

Whilst waking the unit from standby using the remote worked fine, the unit can’t be turned off using the remote if fully powered off which is frustrating.

The GeekBox’s Android 5.1 ROM is essentially stock, aside from the cute GeekBuying branded wallpaper. The internal storage is split into two partitions of 1.91GB and 8.18GB respectively.

The RK3368 processor handles Android really well, without any noticeable lag or slowdown during my review process.

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There’s a few pre-installed apps such as the Aptoide app store, Netflix, ES File Explorer and Kodi 15.2. It’s also rooted out of the box for those that need it.

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HDMI CEC worked fine with my Samsung TV after activating it in settings.

A big draw of the GeekBox is the fact that it runs Linux. After holding down the power button for a few seconds, you’re able to select a “Reboot to Linux” option that will boot you into the pre-installed Linux distribution Lubuntu.

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There’s a few basic apps included such as Chromium for web browsing and an app to boot back into Android. However, with a lack of GPU support, web browsing and playing back media is painful. Trying to watch YouTube was agony, with laggy images and out-of-sync audio everywhere. That said, the actual OS felt snappy so it doesn’t seem to be an issue with the SoC but simply the lack of GPU support that’s holding back this element. If you’re looking for a Linux box, I’d suggest you look elsewhere at this stage.

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GeekBox Review: Media Playback

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Given the lack of GPU support in Linux, media playback was tested under Android using the pre-installed Kodi 15.2.


Video Codec Video Performance (Kodi 15.2)
1080p 3D SBS H.264 OK
1080p 3D ABL H.264 OK
1080p24 H.264 OK
1080p High Bitrate H.264 OK
1080p60 H.264 OK
720p50 H.264 OK
1080i25 H.264 OK
4K 30FPS H.264 Watchable (Smoothness Issues)
4K 60FPS H.264 Unwatchable (Video lags behind Audio)
1080p24 HEVC OK
1080p VP8 OK
720p Hi10p OK
1080p Hi10p Unwatchable (Decoding Issues)
1080p MPEG2 OK
1080p VC1 OK
Unencrypted Bluray ISO(Sintel) OK

Media playback was generally good on the GeekBox. Unfortunately, the RK3368 still struggles with 4K video, with my 30fps sample showing minor stuttering during playback. Most common codecs played back fine however.

Automatic framerate switching doesn’t work when enabled in Kodi which is disappointing.

Deinterlacing performance was good, without any major artifacts.

5.1 passthrough via HDMI worked fine, although I did notice there was a delay of a few seconds before the audio started playing.

Netflix

I was able to start watching Netflix at 480p, however, the video stream would freeze after a few seconds whilst the audio continued to play in the background. I’m assuming this is just a bug and can be fixed in a firmware update. However, this will be a big issue for some users.

External Storage Support

I was able to connect up both my 2.5″ USB-powered HDD and USB thumbdrive and watch videos from them without any issues.

GeekBox Review: Gaming Performance

To test gaming performance, I installed 2 games,1 2D and 1 3D titles:

Jetpack Joyride (Android)
Beach Buggy Racing (Android)

Gaming performance on the GeekBox was pretty pleasant. The PowerVR G6110 was able to handle both Jetpack Joyride and Beach Buggy Racing at 1080p on maximum well. Beach Buggy Racing generally sat around 30fps, dipping below during high action situations. More demanding titles such as Riptide GP2 struggled at maximum but lowering graphical fidelity improved the situation.

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Gaming Controllers and Bluetooth

I was able to pair my iPega PG-9025 and use it to play Beach Buggy Racing without any issues.

SixAxis Compatibility Checker reports that the GeekBox should be compatible.

GeekBox Review: Networking

Networking performance was tested using Wifi performance was tested using Wifi Speed Test, conducting 3 tests and averaging the results. My router is approximately 5m away, with a single wall between the router and the device. WiFi performance is heavily impacted by a number of factors so your performance may vary.

Wireless Performance

Wireless performance was generally excellent. On the 2.4GHz bands, average upload and download speeds were 58.9Mb/s and 29.7Mb/s respectively. Moving up to the less congested 5GHz band saw a dramatic increase in speeds, uploading at 103Mb/s and downloading at 123Mb/s.

Real world performance tests were great, with no buffering experienced whilst streaming 1080p and 4K H.264 samples from an NFS share on my server.

Ethernet Performance

The GeekBox’s Gigabit ethernet connection was solid but didn’t achieve the theoretical maximum, with upload and download speeds of 622Mb/s and 221Mb/s respectively.

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GeekBox Review: Benchmarks

Antutu 6.0 33102
3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited 7368
3DMark Ice Storm Extreme 4336
GeekBench 3 Single Core 650
GeekBench 3 Multi Core 2266
A1 SD Bench – Internal Storage Read 45.41MB/s
A1 SD Bench – Internal Storage Write 12.48MB/s
A1 SD Bench – RAM Copy 2387MB/s

GeekBox Review: Power Consumption

Off Standby Idle 1080p24 Video Under Load
0.0W 2.5W 2.5W 3.2W 4.9W

Should You Get One?

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The GeekBox is certainly an interesting device. As an Android TV box, it puts in a decent effort and handled media playback well, though Netflix issues and not being able to power the unit on via the remote is frustrating for TV use. Support for Linux and other OS’s such as LightBiz plus the ability to tweak the hardware via various accessories also makes it a tinkerer’s dream. However, it does come at a price premium. If you’re looking for a dedicated Android TV box, it’s probably worth investigating some of the dedicated options. However, if you’re the kind of person who loves to experiment and tinker, the GeekBox is well-worth the price of admission.

Getting One

The GeekBox (and associated accessories) are available from GeekBuying for around $120.
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Re: GeekBox Review: A Hacker’s Dream?

Postby Gooplusplus » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:31 am

Thanks for the review.

However, with a lack of GPU support, web browsing and playing back media is painful. Trying to watch YouTube was agony ...

That is a show stopper for me. IMO, the main advantage of this TV box vs others in this price range is dual-boot Linux. This is even more of a consideration since the new 64-bit Rockchip SoC RK3399 promises better performance than the RK3368.

Geekbuying needs to prioritize better Linux GPU support if it wants to interest me in this product. I know that the Geekbox is due to add Android 6.0 soon to replace Android 5.1.1 but that is far less important to me than getting the Linux option to be more useful.

BTW, the apps screen shows the Google Play icon.

Can I assume that this does not actually link to Google Play Store but instead to the much less desirable AptoIDE store?

How to Add Google Play Store to RemixOS

$110 Geekbox PC - runs Android 5.1.1 plus Ubuntu Linux plus Rockchip Light Biz OS
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Re: GeekBox Review: A Hacker’s Dream?

Postby dewet » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:04 am

Gooplusplus wrote:Thanks for the review.

However, with a lack of GPU support, web browsing and playing back media is painful. Trying to watch YouTube was agony ...

That is a show stopper for me. IMO, the main advantage of this TV box vs others in this price range is dual-boot Linux. This is even more of a consideration since the new 64-bit Rockchip SoC RK3899 promises better performance than the RK3868.

Geekbuying needs to prioritize better Linux GPU support if it wants to interest me in this product. I know that the Geekbox is due to add Android 6.0 soon to replace Android 5.1.1 but that is far less important to me than getting the Linux option to be more useful.

BTW, the apps screen shows the Google Play icon.

Can I assume that this does not actually link to Google Play Store but instead to the much less desirable AptoIDE store?

How to Add Google Play Store to RemixOS

$110 Geekbox PC - runs Android 5.1.1 plus Ubuntu Linux plus Rockchip Light Biz OS


It's the actual Google Play Store.
There is now also VPU support in Linux Kodi, so video playback works in Linux but GPU support in Linux is still missing.
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Re: GeekBox Review: A Hacker’s Dream?

Postby arcade » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:06 pm

do not tell tales, playing movies or the android or under linux + kodi works perfect.
Under linux not support gpu but this is not a defect.
We have to work on it.
As you can see is the difference between the first and second ubuntu.
In the new ubuntu player in the browser work, not perfect but better niches in the first version.
So simple request to have nothing to do with geekbox only linux.
What we see already in linux Mplayer is no code to full play, procosor just overloaded 20%.
You need to get it working for more commitment and more support codes are on github.
Mplayer for RK is a need to adopt the go.
geek boxing is for the people what will want to entertain at this game, not just a cry that something does not works.

have fun with hacking the box
:)

like a lot of fun with rk3188 it came to the smooth playback of full HD.
It is not the fault of hardware software only, so you have a choice or android and nothing else.
Or fun in hacking linux

'install the ubuntu touch repo linux sdl2 QT4 and fire up HD video'
thanks macod1 I see that these ubuntu, not only in XBMC it faster, you can see it on the display of the count faster is biking
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